View Full Version : Hobby related tax deductions???

January 15th, 2005, 05:12 PM
I was shooting the sh*t here at home looking at tax-related stuff and supposedly there's such a thing as "hobby-related deductions".

I read up on it some but was curious, is it remotely possible to claim tax deductions on motorcycling related expenses?

[ January 15, 2005, 17:15: Message edited by: Sheyi ]

January 16th, 2005, 08:46 PM
Turbo Tax has that little gem in it's software from 2003, havn't looked at my 2004 version yet...but I claimed it last year, and had no issues.

January 16th, 2005, 08:59 PM
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I was interested so I did a search on the net and found this:

Hobby Business Tax Rules
Be ready to prove that your hobby is a business if you want to write off your hobby losses.

Often a person's hobby or sideline business is a labor of love rather than a reliable source of income. This is most often the case when the business owner or freelancer has other means of financial support -- such as a regular job or a working spouse -- that effectively underwrites the microbusiness. These types of tiny businesses are usually run from home (renting an office would be too expensive) and are often based on semi-recreational activities near and dear to the owner, which has earned them the nickname "hobby businesses."

There are as many types of hobby businesses as there are hobbies. A basement jewelry studio, a jazz band for hire, or an antique refinishing business might all qualify. The owners would probably continue to make jewelry, play jazz, or restore antiques without making money, but they are trying to turn their hobbies into profitable businesses (or at least deduct their hobby-related expenses or losses from their income to lower their tax bill!).

Deducting Hobby Losses From Your Income
For most business owners, losing money for more than a year or so is a cue to close up shop. But if you love what you're doing, it might make sense for you to stick with your losing business even though it makes little or no money. That's because an unprofitable business can be a tax shelter: If you have another source of income, you may be able to use the losses from your hobby business -- including your expenses and depreciation on assets you purchase -- to offset your other taxable income. Deducting these losses can not only lower the amount of income on which taxes are owed, but may also drop you into a lower tax bracket.

The catch is that only bona fide businesses can deduct their losses from their other income -- you're not allowed to deduct losses from your favorite activities, only from a legitimate, profit-motivated business. If the IRS decides that you are indulging a hobby rather than trying to earn a profit, it won't allow you to deduct your business losses.

This is all I could find so if anyone knows different then post up.

January 16th, 2005, 09:07 PM
Be careful. Check with your favorite tax person.

You are only allowed to deduct your "hobby losses" to the extent of your sales or money received from your hobby.

other words, if your hobby is painting and you sell one of your paintings for $ 500.00, you can deduct $ 500.00 for your painting "supplies".

You can't have excess deductions unless you have a "business" set up. One way is to set up a part time business dealing in MC Stuff. smile.gif

January 16th, 2005, 10:58 PM
Oh I have light-bulbs going off in my head now....

Let's see:
i. I buy some motorcycle part for some arbitrary amount - $500
ii. Sell it to myself for $1 at a loss
iii. Deduct $499 in business/hobby losses

And if I have to prove that I'm profit motivated...sell it to myself for profit some of the time.

Am I toying with "Federal pound me in the ***" time here?

Okay...okay...I'm not going to do it...but I might allow my tax person to convince me into it.