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    Default Bead locks

    I ditched the bead locks when I put the dual sport tires on my KTM 450XC. I never had a need for them on my CR250 (I'm slow ). Should I re-install them when putting the knobs back on? I don't want a torn stem ruining my day, but those bead locks are a PIA.
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    Yup.

    That 450 will twist those tires the very first time you get on it hard. Just about guaranteed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    Yup.

    That 450 will twist those tires the very first time you get on it hard. Just about guaranteed.
    My coon logic says, "if it doesn't spin the rim in the tire while being a hooligan on the street, why would it spin the rim while off road where the tire doesn't have the avaiable traction?"

    ...maybe the higher air pressure on the street helps hold the bead?


    ...just ponderring...

    Thinking Cycle Gear may best enjoy this job. ....hate rim/bead locks..
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    Tire pressure is a significant portion of the problem.

    But, there is considerably more traction on that tire (even in the dirt) with the knobbies than there is on a concrete surface.

    Surely you can't think that everyone that puts up with bead locks does it just because, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    But, there is considerably more traction on that tire (even in the dirt) with the knobbies than there is on a concrete surface.

    Surely you can't think that everyone that puts up with bead locks does it just because, do you?
    I'm using 80%/20% street/dirt tires. Purty good street traction.

    ...but no... I don't think others do it for no reason, just don't know if I ride aggressive enough to warrant the hassle. People do all kinds of stuff just b/c the fast people do it. Doesn't mean they need to do it. (steering dampers, HP adders, Recluse clutch, ...., ....)

    The real decission maker was is if the slight chance of a problem is worth ruining my day. Answer: Nope. I'll just spend the bucks to let CG have the fun while my knuckles keep their skin and my BP is kept below stroke inducing values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miykl View Post
    People do all kinds of stuff just b/c the fast people do it. Doesn't mean they need to do it.
    Like using a torque wrench? Just get them 'tight', right?


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    It's not just about overall traction, it's the type of traction. The dirt tire will spin and then hook up instantly, either moving you forward or just lifting the front. Without a rim lock (or two), the tires just going to move around the wheel, taking the tube with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry View Post
    It's not just about overall traction, it's the type of traction. The dirt tire will spin and then hook up instantly, either moving you forward or just lifting the front.
    ...that makes sense...
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    .....and remember, it only has to happen 1/8 inch at a time for the next 8 times and......

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    Quote Originally Posted by outrace View Post
    .....and remember, it only has to happen 1/8 inch at a time for the next 8 times and......
    Like I told her, 4" x 3 = 12"
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