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    Cool Going Strapless!

    Well I got your attention!

    In the last year we (Deborah and I) have had to borrow a trailer a few times to take our bikes to track days and for her work as an MSF instructor. So we went out and bought a 5' X 8' trailer so we could keep our friends and not borrow anymore. But the neat thing is I could now go do an idea I have had of not using canyon dancers and straps to hold down our bikes. There are about three different companies that make them out their but I wanted to be able to hold down both bikes at once and or just one if I needed to.

    So here are the details. Both of our bikes have hollow axels. One side is bigger than the other. Since I have a lath in my garage I turned down some 6160 T6 to fit in both sides and have a hollow center. I did the same for front and back. What you see in the pictures I have thumb screws that hold them in place on the shaft. Not a good Idea so those are gone now and I'm using a clamp collar to hold them in place but I don't have pictures of that.

    I used it for the first time to go from San Antonio to Bryan/collage Station (TWS track day). About 4 hour trip. The Bikes did not move an inch. I did have the issue with the thumb screws but you donít know unless you try.

    Take a look and tell me what you think. I'll answer any questions.





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    I really like that design, i may make a set for indvidual use, making a "U" shape i can clip to the floor, i have different length bikes, but with the front chocks, that would work awesome!! Thanks for the inspiration, i'll give it a whirl!
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    My buddy uses the pitbull system. It is expensive but it works great.

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    It can be used for one bike. My out of pocket for material was $45.00.
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    Pretty cool! What is this bracket on the trailer?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CBar View Post
    Pretty cool! What is this bracket on the trailer?
    I made and welded those brackets to the trailer. The silver round thing is a lock. Yes I can lock the rods to the trailer so the bikes can't be stolen off the trailer. If you have a front chock you really only need the back rod or shaft to hold up the bike.
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    It's the lock I was referring to. I haven't seen anything like that.

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    I made and welded those brackets to the trailer. The silver round thing is a lock. Yes I can lock the rods to the trailer so the bikes can't be stolen off the trailer. If you have a front chock you really only need the back rod or shaft to hold up the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBar View Post
    It's the lock I was referring to. I haven't seen anything like that.
    It's a trailer ball lock. Same type as a receiver hitch pin lock.
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    My only worry is that the rods could bend otherwise VERY nice job!
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    What keeps the whole thing from shifting to one side and pulling the bars out of the loops on one side? Is it the length of the spacers that clamp the axles?

    I think you've made a track vehicle that only goes forward. Have you tried riding that thing? Gas both bikes to go straight. Gas the "outside" bike really hard to turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Young View Post
    My only worry is that the rods could bend otherwise VERY nice job!
    That is what I thought when I went way too fast over a set of railroad tracks and saw the trailer too high in my mirrrior!


    The alumnum pieses I machined slide up in the axel and are machined to slide on the shaft. With them up in the axel there is no room for the bike to wiggle or bend the shaft. Now I have not tried it with just one bike on it yet. But I will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -=sean)=- View Post
    What keeps the whole thing from shifting to one side and pulling the bars out of the loops on one side? Is it the length of the spacers that clamp the axles?

    I think you've made a track vehicle that only goes forward. Have you tried riding that thing? Gas both bikes to go straight. Gas the "outside" bike really hard to turn.
    No Sean it is the plate in the picture that Chris was asking about. When I push the shaft all the way through I line up the holes I drilled in the plates and put a lock or pin in the hole and that will keep the shaft in place. Plus there is enough pressure from the bikes to make it tight. A little hard to turn, can't vibrate out.
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    Neat idea but looks hard to deploy. Chech out STS. Our own dirty girl, Ms Amber's lessor half makes them....

    http://www.ststands.com/main.cfm
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedX View Post
    Neat idea but looks hard to deploy. Chech out STS. Our own dirty girl, Ms Amber's lessor half makes them....

    http://www.ststands.com/main.cfm
    Yep that is one of the companies I found.

    If the wife is helping me put the bikes on the trailer it's real fast. Push the first bike up she pushes the shaft through the front and stop as it passes through then the back. With the shaft through both front and back the bike will stand right there. Slide the spacers on for the next bike and then push bike two in position and she pushes the shaft through it. Done! Lock down the spacers.

    Now if I do the bike by myself I have to use my soft straps just to hold the bike up while I push the first shaft through. The rest is the same but straps hold the bike in place while I push the shafts through.

    The only reason I wanted to do my way is I can hold down both front and rear. The others just hold the rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post

    The only reason I wanted to do my way is I can hold down both front and rear. The others just hold the rear.
    Your way has the added bonus of creating your own solution. Kudos.
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    Nicely done - and inexpensive! A couple of these to help loading is all I'd add.
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    Chris I totaly agree! But I would have to by three or just two and move one if I haul only one bike. My trailer is wide enough to haul only one bike on one side but in the middle takess everything that could happen out of your mind and you don't have to worry.

    Everything we do like track days I have a double cost! So the less I spend the more I can spend on fun.
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    Sounds like you need to tell the wife to buy her own wheel chock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx_02 View Post
    Sounds like you need to tell the wife to buy her own wheel chock.
    Still comes out of my pocket.
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    These are what the spacers look like. They slide in the axel to give the support.

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    Nice job Bro! 'Course, I'm not surprised...you're one of those guys who can build anything.
    Only serious 'Fab' guys have a lathe in their garage.

    The only problem I see is getting Liz to help me load my bike.
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